On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:15:04AM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:59:14AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:02:00AM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 08:55:15AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:12:10AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:38:41AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 07:24:09PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > So that leaves just the normal close() syscall exit case,
where the
> > > > > > application has full control of the order in which
resources are
> > > > > > released. We've already established that we can block
in this
> > > > > > context. Blocking in an interruptible state will allow
fatal signal
> > > > > > delivery to wake us, and then we fall into the
> > > > > > fatal_signal_pending() case if we get a SIGKILL while
blocking.
> > > > >
> > > > > The major problem with RDMA is that it doesn't always wait
on close() for the
> > > > > MR holding the page pins to be destoyed. This is done to avoid
a
> > > > > deadlock of the form:
> > > > >
> > > > > uverbs_destroy_ufile_hw()
> > > > > mutex_lock()
> > > > > [..]
> > > > > mmput()
> > > > > exit_mmap()
> > > > > remove_vma()
> > > > > fput();
> > > > > file_operations->release()
> > > >
> > > > I think this is wrong, and I'm pretty sure it's an example of
why
> > > > the final __fput() call is moved out of line.
> > >
> > > Yes, I think so too, all I can say is this *used* to happen, as we
> > > have special code avoiding it, which is the code that is messing up
> > > Ira's lifetime model.
> > >
> > > Ira, you could try unraveling the special locking, that solves your
> > > lifetime issues?
> >
> > Yes I will try to prove this out... But I'm still not sure this fully
solves
> > the problem.
> >
> > This only ensures that the process which has the RDMA context (RDMA FD) is
safe
> > with regard to hanging the close for the "data file FD" (the file
which has
> > pinned pages) in that _same_ process. But what about the scenario.
> >
> > Process A has the RDMA context FD and data file FD (with lease) open.
> >
> > Process A uses SCM_RIGHTS to pass the RDMA context FD to Process B.
>
> Passing the RDMA context dependent on a file layout lease to another
> process that doesn't have a file layout lease or a reference to the
> original lease should be considered a violation of the layout lease.
> Process B does not have an active layout lease, and so by the rules
> of layout leases, it is not allowed to pin the layout of the file.
>
I don't disagree with the semantics of this. I just don't know how to enforce
it.
> > Process A attempts to exit (hangs because data file FD is pinned).
> >
> > Admin kills process A. kill works because we have allowed for it...
> >
> > Process B _still_ has the RDMA context FD open _and_ therefore still holds the
> > file pins.
> >
> > Truncation still fails.
> >
> > Admin does not know which process is holding the pin.
> >
> > What am I missing?
>
> Application does not hold the correct file layout lease references.
> Passing the fd via SCM_RIGHTS to a process without a layout lease
> is equivalent to not using layout leases in the first place.
Ok, So If I understand you correctly you would support a failure of SCM_RIGHTS
in this case? I'm ok with that but not sure how to implement it right now.
To that end, I would like to simplify this slightly because I'm not convinced
that SCM_RIGHTS is a problem we need to solve right now. ie I don't know of a
user who wants to do this.
I don't think we can support it, let alone want to. SCM_RIGHTS was a
mistake made years ago that has been causing bugs and complexity to
try and avoid those bugs ever since. I'm only taking about it
because someone else raised it and I asummed they raised it because
they want it to "work".
Right now duplication via SCM_RIGHTS could fail if _any_ file pins
(and by
definition leases) exist underneath the "RDMA FD" (or other direct access FD,
like XDP etc) being duplicated.
Sounds like a fine idea to me.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Dave Chinner
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