[ adding linux-rdma ]
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko(a)kernel.org> wrote:
On Thu 30-11-17 10:03:26, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko(a)kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu 30-11-17 08:39:51, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko(a)kernel.org>
> > > > On Wed 29-11-17 10:05:35, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > >> Until there is a solution to the dma-to-dax vs truncate problem
> > > >> not safe to allow long standing memory registrations against
> > > >> filesytem-dax vmas. Device-dax vmas do not have this problem and
> > > >> explicitly allowed.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is temporary until a "memory registration with
> > > >> mechanism can be implemented for the affected sub-systems (RDMA
> > > >> V4L2).
> > > >
> > > > One thing is not clear to me. Who is allowed to pin pages for ever?
> > > > Is it possible to pin LRU pages that way as well? If yes then there
> > > > absolutely has to be a limit for that. Sorry I could have studied
> > > > code much more but from a quick glance it seems to me that this is
> > > > limited to dax (or non-LRU in general) pages.
> > >
> > > I would turn this question around. "who can not tolerate a page
> > > pinned forever?".
> > Any struct page on the movable zone or anything that is living on the
> > LRU list because such a memory is unreclaimable.
> > > In the case of filesytem-dax a page is
> > > one-in-the-same object as a filesystem-block, and a filesystem expects
> > > that its operations will not be blocked indefinitely. LRU pages can
> > > continue to be pinned indefinitely because operations can continue
> > > around the pinned page, i.e. every agent, save for the dma agent,
> > > drops their reference to the page and its tolerable that the final
> > > put_page() never arrives.
> > I do not understand. Are you saying that a user triggered IO can pin LRU
> > pages indefinitely. This would be _really_ wrong. It would be basically
> > an mlock without any limit. So I must be misreading you here
> You're not misreading. See ib_umem_get() for example, it pins pages in
> response to the userspace library call ibv_reg_mr() (memory
> registration), and will not release those pages unless/until a call to
> ibv_dereg_mr() is made.
Who and how many LRU pages can pin that way and how do you prevent nasty
users to DoS systems this way?
I assume this is something the RDMA community has had to contend with?
I'm not an RDMA person, I'm just here to fix dax.
I remember PeterZ wanted to address a similar issue by vmpin syscall
that would be a subject of a rlimit control. Sorry but I cannot find a
but if this is at g-u-p level without any accounting then
it smells quite broken to me.
It's certainly broken with respect to filesystem-dax and if there is
other breakage we should get it all on the table.