On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 9/22/2013 4:54 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > >So, I asked on the linux-usb list, and one thing I quickly found > >out is that the Watt value given by powertop 2.4 is way off for USB devices: > > what makes you think the value is off? > > >>Power est. Events/s Category Description > >> 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > >> 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.) > > having a USB device active also generally makes the CPU/etc use much > more power, which Powertop "charges" to the USB device in question. > > 8 Watts sounds entirely reasonable for that to me... Aah, if the CPU gets involved, then yes, it's a bit more possible. So, a simple USB keyboard that's unused can keep one core awake and burn 8 watts if something else goes wrong in the kernel to cause that?

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 09:22:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On 9/22/2013 4:54 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > >So, I asked on the linux-usb list, and one thing I quickly found > > >out is that the Watt value given by powertop 2.4 is way off for USB devices: > > > > what makes you think the value is off? > > > > >>Power est. Events/s Category Description > > >> 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > > >> 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.) > > > > having a USB device active also generally makes the CPU/etc use > > much more power, which Powertop "charges" to the USB device in question. > > > > 8 Watts sounds entirely reasonable for that to me... > > Aah, if the CPU gets involved, then yes, it's a bit more possible. > So, a simple USB keyboard that's unused can keep one core awake and > burn 8 watts if something else goes wrong in the kernel to cause that? So, I just upgraded to 3.11.5, and see things like this below. Can alsa sound really take 10W when I'm batteries? Let me put it another way, it just cannot be correct. Full power use is 15W and if you removed 10W for audio (I'm sure that's wrong) and 3W for wifi (that may be correct) it means my quad core laptop is running at 2W with the screen on? Not possible at all.

So there has to be a bug in powertop 2.4 USB device power calculation. For what it's worth, I got the data below right after running powertop --calibrate and letting it go through a full cycle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ The battery reports a discharge rate of 15.1 W The estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 53 minutes Summary: 572.4 wakeups/second, 18.3 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 8.3% CPU use Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description 10.5 W 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) 3.10 W 7.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) 772 mW 25.1 ms/s 208.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment 13.4 mW 1.2 ms/s 8.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window10 --role=window10 --tab (...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------

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add missing has_c2c7_res init to nhm_core() .ctor and has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res init to nhm_package() .ctor. uninitialised has_c2c7_res/has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res may be used in core/package measurement_start()/measurement_end(). Signed-off-by: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt;

Hi From this mail thread, I see a result format like this: Power est. Events/s Category Description 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony However, when I use powertop on my Ubuntu laptop, I can't get the first column (8.18W, etc.). I use the commond "powertop --calibrate ", while my laptop in discharging mode. I can't find the solution in README or website, could you help?

Best Regards ☺ Xiaofeng Zhang -----Original Message----- From: powertop-bounces(a)lists.01.org [mailto:powertop-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of powertop-request(a)lists.01.org Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:00 AM To: powertop(a)lists.01.org Subject: PowerTop Digest, Vol 18, Issue 19 Send PowerTop mailing list submissions to powertop(a)lists.01.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/powertop or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to powertop-request(a)lists.01.org You can reach the person managing the list at powertop-owner(a)lists.01.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of PowerTop digest..." Today's Topics: 1. [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states init (Sergey Senozhatsky) 2. Re: USB devices get wrong power use values (Marc MERLIN) 3. Re: USB devices get wrong power use values (Marc MERLIN) 4. Re: [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states init (Kristen Carlson Accardi) 5. [Announce] v2.5-rc1 (Kristen Carlson Accardi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:37:51 +0300 From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; To: powertop(a)lists.01.org Subject: [Powertop] [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states init Message-ID: <20131017203751.GA2280@swordfish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii add missing has_c2c7_res init to nhm_core() .ctor and has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res init to nhm_package() .ctor. uninitialised has_c2c7_res/has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res may be used in core/package measurement_start()/measurement_end(). Signed-off-by: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; --- src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp | 6 +++++- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp b/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp index 194dc75..ad80337 100644 --- a/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp +++ b/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp @@ -87,6 +87,8 @@ static uint64_t get_msr(int cpu, uint64_t offset) nhm_core::nhm_core(int model) { + has_c2c7_res = 0; + switch(model) { case 0x2A: /* SNB */ case 0x2D: /* SNB Xeon */ @@ -252,6 +254,9 @@ char * nhm_core::fill_pstate_line(int line_nr, char *buffer) nhm_package::nhm_package(int model) { + has_c8c9c10_res = 0; + has_c2c7_res = 0; + switch(model) { case 0x2A: /* SNB */ case 0x2D: /* SNB Xeon */ @@ -269,7 +274,6 @@ nhm_package::nhm_package(int model) else has_c3_res = 1; - /* Haswell-ULT has C8/9/10*/ if (model == 0x45) has_c8c9c10_res = 1; ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:01:54 -0700 From: Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org&gt; To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com&gt; Cc: powertop(a)ml01.01.org Subject: Re: [Powertop] USB devices get wrong power use values Message-ID: <20131018000154.GA5362(a)merlins.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 09:22:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On 9/22/2013 4:54 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > >So, I asked on the linux-usb list, and one thing I quickly found > > >out is that the Watt value given by powertop 2.4 is way off for USB devices: > > > > what makes you think the value is off? > > > > >>Power est. Events/s Category Description > > >> 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > > >> 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.) > > > > having a USB device active also generally makes the CPU/etc use > > much more power, which Powertop "charges" to the USB device in question. > > > > 8 Watts sounds entirely reasonable for that to me... > > Aah, if the CPU gets involved, then yes, it's a bit more possible. > So, a simple USB keyboard that's unused can keep one core awake and > burn 8 watts if something else goes wrong in the kernel to cause that? So, I just upgraded to 3.11.5, and see things like this below. Can alsa sound really take 10W when I'm batteries? Let me put it another way, it just cannot be correct. Full power use is 15W and if you removed 10W for audio (I'm sure that's wrong) and 3W for wifi (that may be correct) it means my quad core laptop is running at 2W with the screen on? Not possible at all. So there has to be a bug in powertop 2.4 USB device power calculation. For what it's worth, I got the data below right after running powertop --calibrate and letting it go through a full cycle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ The battery reports a discharge rate of 15.1 W The estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 53 minutes Summary: 572.4 wakeups/second, 18.3 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 8.3% CPU use Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description 10.5 W 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) 3.10 W 7.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) 772 mW 25.1 ms/s 208.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment 13.4 mW 1.2 ms/s 8.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window10 --role=window10 --tab (...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Calibrate results if that helps: gandalfthegreat:~# powertop --calibrate Loaded 750 prior measurements RAPL device for cpu 0 RAPL device for cpu 0 RAPL device for cpu 0 Starting PowerTOP power estimate calibration Calibrating idle Calibrating: disk usage Calibrating backlight .... device /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness .... device /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness Calibrating idle Calibrating: CPU usage on 1 threads Calibrating: CPU usage on 4 threads Calibrating: CPU wakeup power consumption Calibrating: CPU wakeup power consumption Calibrating: CPU wakeup power consumption Calibrating USB devices .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/4-1/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb2/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb3/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb4/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1.2/power/control .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1.6/power/control Calibrating radio devices .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/soft .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill1/soft .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/soft .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill1/soft Finishing PowerTOP power estimate calibration Parameters after calibration: Parameter state ---------------------------------- Value Name 2.23 alsa-codec-power (2) 0.37 backlight (3) 3.51 backlight-boost-100 (4) 2.52 backlight-boost-40 (5) 6.65 backlight-boost-80 (6) 0.00 backlight-power (7) 0.21 base power (8) 0.00 cpu-consumption (9) 0.00 cpu-wakeups (10) 0.00 disk-operations (11) 0.00 disk-operations-hard (12) 0.00 eth0-link-100 (13) 10.93 eth0-link-1000 (14) 0.00 eth0-link-high (15) 0.00 eth0-packets (16) 0.00 eth0-powerunsave (17) 0.00 eth0-up (18) 0.20 gpu-operations (19) 0.00 radio:hci0 (20) 0.00 radio:phy0 (21) 0.31 radio:tpacpi_bluetooth_sw (22) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:00.0 (23) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:02.0 (24) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:14.0 (25) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:16.0 (26) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:16.3 (27) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:19.0 (28) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1a.0 (29) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1b.0 (30) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1c.0 (31) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1c.1 (32) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1c.2 (33) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1d.0 (34) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1f.0 (35) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1f.2 (36) 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1f.3 (37) 0.00 runtime-0000:02:00.0 (38) 0.00 runtime-0000:03:00.0 (39) 0.00 thinkpad-fan (40) 0.00 thinkpad-fan-cub (41) 0.00 thinkpad-fan-sqr (42) 0.00 thinkpad-light (43) 0.00 usb-device-0403-6001 (44) 0.00 usb-device-04e8-6860 (45) 0.00 usb-device-04e8-6864 (46) 2.58 usb-device-04f2-b2ea (47) 0.00 usb-device-058f-6387 (48) 0.00 usb-device-091e-0003 (49) 1.34 usb-device-0a5c-21e6 (50) 9.82 usb-device-1050-0010 (51) 0.00 usb-device-18d1-4ee2 (52) 0.00 usb-device-18d1-4ee4 (53) 0.00 usb-device-1d6b-0002 (54) 0.00 usb-device-1d6b-0003 (55) 0.00 usb-device-8087-0024 (56) 0.00 usb0-link-100 (57) 0.00 usb0-link-1000 (58) 0.00 usb0-link-high (59) 0.00 usb0-packets (60) 0.00 usb0-powerunsave (61) 0.00 usb0-up (62) 0.00 vboxnet0-link-100 (63) 0.00 vboxnet0-link-1000 (64) 0.00 vboxnet0-link-high (65) 0.00 vboxnet0-packets (66) 0.00 vboxnet0-powerunsave (67) 0.00 vboxnet0-up (68) 0.00 wlan0-link-100 (69) 0.00 wlan0-link-1000 (70) 0.00 wlan0-link-high (71) 0.00 wlan0-packets (72) 1.64 wlan0-powerunsave (73) 0.00 wlan0-up (74) 0.00 xwakes (75) Score: 2.6 (104691.5) Guess: 13.2 Actual: 13.6 ---------------------------------- -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:24:41 -0700 From: Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org&gt; To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com&gt; Cc: powertop(a)ml01.01.org Subject: Re: [Powertop] USB devices get wrong power use values Message-ID: <20131018002441.GB5362(a)merlins.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:01:54PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 09:22:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On 9/22/2013 4:54 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > >So, I asked on the linux-usb list, and one thing I quickly > > > >found out is that the Watt value given by powertop 2.4 is way off for USB devices: > > > > > > what makes you think the value is off? > > > > > > >>Power est. Events/s Category Description > > > >> 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > > > >> 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.) > > > > > > having a USB device active also generally makes the CPU/etc use > > > much more power, which Powertop "charges" to the USB device in question. > > > > > > 8 Watts sounds entirely reasonable for that to me... > > > > Aah, if the CPU gets involved, then yes, it's a bit more possible. > > So, a simple USB keyboard that's unused can keep one core awake > > and burn 8 watts if something else goes wrong in the kernel to cause that? > > So, I just upgraded to 3.11.5, and see things like this below. Can > alsa sound really take 10W when I'm batteries? > Let me put it another way, it just cannot be correct. Full power use > is 15W and if you removed 10W for audio (I'm sure that's wrong) and > 3W for wifi (that may be correct) it means my quad core laptop is running at 2W with the screen on? > Not possible at all. > So there has to be a bug in powertop 2.4 USB device power calculation. > > For what it's worth, I got the data below right after running > powertop --calibrate and letting it go through a full cycle. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- The battery reports a discharge rate of 15.1 W The > estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 53 minutes > > Summary: 572.4 wakeups/second, 18.3 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS > ops/sec and 8.3% CPU use > > Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description > 10.5 W 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) > 3.10 W 7.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) > 772 mW 25.1 ms/s 208.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment > 13.4 mW 1.2 ms/s 8.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window10 --role=window10 --tab > (...) > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- Just after I wrote this, I'm now seeing my yubikey back to 10W when it was alsa holding the slot earlier. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- The battery reports a discharge rate of 21.3 W The estimated remaining time is 3 hours, 0 minutes Summary: 2685.1 wakeups/second, 149.8 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 31.2% CPU use Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description 10.4 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) 5.50 W 13.0% Device Display backlight 1.51 W 17.4 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) 566 mW 85.8 ms/s 1520.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment 109 mW 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) 43.2 mW 5.2 ms/s 72.9 Process xfce4-terminal -T window5 --role=window5 25.9 mW 0.8 ms/s 14.8 Process xfce4-terminal -T window9 --role=window9 --tab > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- I hope this is useful. Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:07:25 -0700 From: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen(a)linux.intel.com&gt; To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; Cc: powertop(a)lists.01.org Subject: Re: [Powertop] [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states init Message-ID: <20131018110725.7a2b1459(a)bluebird.jf.intel.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:37:51 +0300 Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > add missing has_c2c7_res init to nhm_core() .ctor and > has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res init to nhm_package() .ctor. > > uninitialised has_c2c7_res/has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res > may be used in core/package measurement_start()/measurement_end(). > > Signed-off-by: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; Applied, thanks. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:09:26 -0700 From: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen(a)linux.intel.com&gt; To: powertop(a)lists.01.org Subject: [Powertop] [Announce] v2.5-rc1 Message-ID: <20131018110926.2deb6450(a)bluebird.jf.intel.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Please test. 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Thanks ss But sorry, I didn't understand.. :(, what's your mean "some number of previous measurements"? Do you mean I need run powertop several times? I have tried it, not a valid method. Could you provide more info? Thanks.

Best Regards ☺ Xiaofeng Zhang -----Original Message----- From: Sergey Senozhatsky [mailto:sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:55 PM To: Zhang, Xiaofeng Cc: powertop(a)lists.01.org Subject: Re: [Powertop] powertop doesnt show watts On (10/31/13 06:34), Zhang, Xiaofeng wrote: > Hi > > From this mail thread, I see a result format like this: > Power est. Events/s Category Description > 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony > > However, when I use powertop on my Ubuntu laptop, I can't get the first column (8.18W, etc.). I use the commond "powertop --calibrate ", while my laptop in discharging mode. > I can't find the solution in README or website, could you help? > Hello, I think you're talking about "Power est." column. quote from the source code /* * only report power numbers once we have 3* more measurements than * we have parameters; anything less and our model fit is highly * suspect */ so powertop need some number of previous measurements in order to start estimating. -ss > > Best Regards ☺ > Xiaofeng Zhang > > -----Original Message----- > From: powertop-bounces(a)lists.01.org > [mailto:powertop-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of > powertop-request(a)lists.01.org > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:00 AM > To: powertop(a)lists.01.org > Subject: PowerTop Digest, Vol 18, Issue 19 > > Send PowerTop mailing list submissions to > powertop(a)lists.01.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/powertop > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > powertop-request(a)lists.01.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > powertop-owner(a)lists.01.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of PowerTop digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states init > (Sergey Senozhatsky) > 2. Re: USB devices get wrong power use values (Marc MERLIN) > 3. Re: USB devices get wrong power use values (Marc MERLIN) > 4. Re: [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states init > (Kristen Carlson Accardi) > 5. [Announce] v2.5-rc1 (Kristen Carlson Accardi) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:37:51 +0300 > From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; > To: powertop(a)lists.01.org > Subject: [Powertop] [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states > init > Message-ID: <20131017203751.GA2280@swordfish> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > add missing has_c2c7_res init to nhm_core() .ctor and has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res init to nhm_package() .ctor. > > uninitialised has_c2c7_res/has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res > may be used in core/package measurement_start()/measurement_end(). > > Signed-off-by: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; > > --- > > src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp | 6 +++++- > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp b/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp index > 194dc75..ad80337 100644 > --- a/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp > +++ b/src/cpu/intel_cpus.cpp > @@ -87,6 +87,8 @@ static uint64_t get_msr(int cpu, uint64_t offset) > > nhm_core::nhm_core(int model) > { > + has_c2c7_res = 0; > + > switch(model) { > case 0x2A: /* SNB */ > case 0x2D: /* SNB Xeon */ > @@ -252,6 +254,9 @@ char * nhm_core::fill_pstate_line(int line_nr, > char *buffer) > > nhm_package::nhm_package(int model) { > + has_c8c9c10_res = 0; > + has_c2c7_res = 0; > + > switch(model) { > case 0x2A: /* SNB */ > case 0x2D: /* SNB Xeon */ > @@ -269,7 +274,6 @@ nhm_package::nhm_package(int model) > else > has_c3_res = 1; > > - > /* Haswell-ULT has C8/9/10*/ > if (model == 0x45) > has_c8c9c10_res = 1; > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:01:54 -0700 > From: Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org&gt; > To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com&gt; > Cc: powertop(a)ml01.01.org > Subject: Re: [Powertop] USB devices get wrong power use values > Message-ID: <20131018000154.GA5362(a)merlins.org&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 09:22:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On 9/22/2013 4:54 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > >So, I asked on the linux-usb list, and one thing I quickly > > > >found out is that the Watt value given by powertop 2.4 is way off for USB devices: > > > > > > what makes you think the value is off? > > > > > > >>Power est. Events/s Category Description > > > >> 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > > > >> 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.) > > > > > > having a USB device active also generally makes the CPU/etc use > > > much more power, which Powertop "charges" to the USB device in question. > > > > > > 8 Watts sounds entirely reasonable for that to me... > > > > Aah, if the CPU gets involved, then yes, it's a bit more possible. > > So, a simple USB keyboard that's unused can keep one core awake > > and burn 8 watts if something else goes wrong in the kernel to cause that? > > So, I just upgraded to 3.11.5, and see things like this below. Can alsa sound really take 10W when I'm batteries? > Let me put it another way, it just cannot be correct. Full power use is 15W and if you removed 10W for audio (I'm sure that's wrong) and 3W for wifi (that may be correct) it means my quad core laptop is running at 2W with the screen on? > Not possible at all. > > So there has to be a bug in powertop 2.4 USB device power calculation. > > For what it's worth, I got the data below right after running powertop --calibrate and letting it go through a full cycle. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ------ The battery reports a discharge rate of 15.1 W The estimated > remaining time is 4 hours, 53 minutes > > Summary: 572.4 wakeups/second, 18.3 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS > ops/sec and 8.3% CPU use > > Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description > 10.5 W 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) > 3.10 W 7.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) > 772 mW 25.1 ms/s 208.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment > 13.4 mW 1.2 ms/s 8.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window10 --role=window10 --tab > (...) > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ------ > > Calibrate results if that helps: > gandalfthegreat:~# powertop --calibrate Loaded 750 prior > measurements RAPL device for cpu 0 RAPL device for cpu 0 RAPL device > for cpu 0 Starting PowerTOP power estimate calibration Calibrating > idle > Calibrating: disk usage > Calibrating backlight > .... device /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness > .... device /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness > Calibrating idle > Calibrating: CPU usage on 1 threads > Calibrating: CPU usage on 4 threads > Calibrating: CPU wakeup power consumption > Calibrating: CPU wakeup power consumption > Calibrating: CPU wakeup power consumption Calibrating USB devices .... > device /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/4-1/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb2/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb3/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb4/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1.2/power/control > .... device /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1.6/power/control > Calibrating radio devices > .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/soft .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill1/soft .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/soft .... device /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill1/soft Finishing PowerTOP power estimate calibration Parameters after calibration: > > > Parameter state > ---------------------------------- > Value Name > 2.23 alsa-codec-power (2) > 0.37 backlight (3) > 3.51 backlight-boost-100 (4) > 2.52 backlight-boost-40 (5) > 6.65 backlight-boost-80 (6) > 0.00 backlight-power (7) > 0.21 base power (8) > 0.00 cpu-consumption (9) > 0.00 cpu-wakeups (10) > 0.00 disk-operations (11) > 0.00 disk-operations-hard (12) > 0.00 eth0-link-100 (13) > 10.93 eth0-link-1000 (14) > 0.00 eth0-link-high (15) > 0.00 eth0-packets (16) > 0.00 eth0-powerunsave (17) > 0.00 eth0-up (18) > 0.20 gpu-operations (19) > 0.00 radio:hci0 (20) > 0.00 radio:phy0 (21) > 0.31 radio:tpacpi_bluetooth_sw (22) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:00.0 (23) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:02.0 (24) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:14.0 (25) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:16.0 (26) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:16.3 (27) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:19.0 (28) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1a.0 (29) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1b.0 (30) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1c.0 (31) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1c.1 (32) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1c.2 (33) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1d.0 (34) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1f.0 (35) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1f.2 (36) > 0.00 runtime-0000:00:1f.3 (37) > 0.00 runtime-0000:02:00.0 (38) > 0.00 runtime-0000:03:00.0 (39) > 0.00 thinkpad-fan (40) > 0.00 thinkpad-fan-cub (41) > 0.00 thinkpad-fan-sqr (42) > 0.00 thinkpad-light (43) > 0.00 usb-device-0403-6001 (44) > 0.00 usb-device-04e8-6860 (45) > 0.00 usb-device-04e8-6864 (46) > 2.58 usb-device-04f2-b2ea (47) > 0.00 usb-device-058f-6387 (48) > 0.00 usb-device-091e-0003 (49) > 1.34 usb-device-0a5c-21e6 (50) > 9.82 usb-device-1050-0010 (51) > 0.00 usb-device-18d1-4ee2 (52) > 0.00 usb-device-18d1-4ee4 (53) > 0.00 usb-device-1d6b-0002 (54) > 0.00 usb-device-1d6b-0003 (55) > 0.00 usb-device-8087-0024 (56) > 0.00 usb0-link-100 (57) > 0.00 usb0-link-1000 (58) > 0.00 usb0-link-high (59) > 0.00 usb0-packets (60) > 0.00 usb0-powerunsave (61) > 0.00 usb0-up (62) > 0.00 vboxnet0-link-100 (63) > 0.00 vboxnet0-link-1000 (64) > 0.00 vboxnet0-link-high (65) > 0.00 vboxnet0-packets (66) > 0.00 vboxnet0-powerunsave (67) > 0.00 vboxnet0-up (68) > 0.00 wlan0-link-100 (69) > 0.00 wlan0-link-1000 (70) > 0.00 wlan0-link-high (71) > 0.00 wlan0-packets (72) > 1.64 wlan0-powerunsave (73) > 0.00 wlan0-up (74) > 0.00 xwakes (75) > > Score: 2.6 (104691.5) > Guess: 13.2 > Actual: 13.6 > ---------------------------------- > > > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to > gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:24:41 -0700 > From: Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org&gt; > To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com&gt; > Cc: powertop(a)ml01.01.org > Subject: Re: [Powertop] USB devices get wrong power use values > Message-ID: <20131018002441.GB5362(a)merlins.org&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:01:54PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 09:22:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > On 9/22/2013 4:54 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > > >So, I asked on the linux-usb list, and one thing I quickly > > > > >found out is that the Watt value given by powertop 2.4 is way off for USB devices: > > > > > > > > what makes you think the value is off? > > > > > > > > >>Power est. Events/s Category Description > > > > >> 8.18 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > > > > >> 8.13 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.) > > > > > > > > having a USB device active also generally makes the CPU/etc > > > > use much more power, which Powertop "charges" to the USB device in question. > > > > > > > > 8 Watts sounds entirely reasonable for that to me... > > > > > > Aah, if the CPU gets involved, then yes, it's a bit more possible. > > > So, a simple USB keyboard that's unused can keep one core awake > > > and burn 8 watts if something else goes wrong in the kernel to cause that? > > > > So, I just upgraded to 3.11.5, and see things like this below. Can > > alsa sound really take 10W when I'm batteries? > > Let me put it another way, it just cannot be correct. Full power > > use is 15W and if you removed 10W for audio (I'm sure that's > > wrong) and 3W for wifi (that may be correct) it means my quad core laptop is running at 2W with the screen on? > > Not possible at all. > > > So there has to be a bug in powertop 2.4 USB device power calculation. > > > > For what it's worth, I got the data below right after running > > powertop --calibrate and letting it go through a full cycle. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > -------- The battery reports a discharge rate of 15.1 W The > > estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 53 minutes > > > > Summary: 572.4 wakeups/second, 18.3 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS > > ops/sec and 8.3% CPU use > > > > Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description > > 10.5 W 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) > > 3.10 W 7.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) > > 772 mW 25.1 ms/s 208.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment > > 13.4 mW 1.2 ms/s 8.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window10 --role=window10 --tab > > (...) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > -------- > > Just after I wrote this, I'm now seeing my yubikey back to 10W when > it was alsa holding the slot earlier. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > -------- > The battery reports a discharge rate of 21.3 W The estimated > remaining time is 3 hours, 0 minutes > > Summary: 2685.1 wakeups/second, 149.8 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS > ops/sec and 31.2% CPU use > > Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description > 10.4 W 100.0% Device USB device: Yubico Yubikey II (Yubico) > 5.50 W 13.0% Device Display backlight > 1.51 W 17.4 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi) > 566 mW 85.8 ms/s 1520.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment > 109 mW 100.0% Device Audio codec alsa:hwC0D0: thinkpad (Realtek) > 43.2 mW 5.2 ms/s 72.9 Process xfce4-terminal -T window5 --role=window5 > 25.9 mW 0.8 ms/s 14.8 Process xfce4-terminal -T window9 --role=window9 --tab > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > -------- > > I hope this is useful. > > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to > gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:07:25 -0700 > From: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen(a)linux.intel.com&gt; > To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; > Cc: powertop(a)lists.01.org > Subject: Re: [Powertop] [PATCH -next] intel cpus: add proper C-states > init > Message-ID: <20131018110725.7a2b1459(a)bluebird.jf.intel.com&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:37:51 +0300 > Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > add missing has_c2c7_res init to nhm_core() .ctor and > > has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res init to nhm_package() .ctor. > > > > uninitialised has_c2c7_res/has_c8c9c10_res/has_c2c7_res > > may be used in core/package measurement_start()/measurement_end(). > > > > Signed-off-by: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky(a)gmail.com&gt; > > Applied, thanks. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:09:26 -0700 > From: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen(a)linux.intel.com&gt; > To: powertop(a)lists.01.org > Subject: [Powertop] [Announce] v2.5-rc1 > Message-ID: <20131018110926.2deb6450(a)bluebird.jf.intel.com&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Please test. > > Thanks, > Kristen > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PowerTop mailing list > PowerTop(a)lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/powertop > > > End of PowerTop Digest, Vol 18, Issue 19 > **************************************** > _______________________________________________ > PowerTop mailing list > PowerTop(a)lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/powertop