5:27 a.m.
I was more or less forced to try the various SyncML services supported
by Syncevolution lately. I thought perhaps I could share some remarks I
have made about them.
1) OVI (for reference - dead and buried thanks to Microsoft)
------
2) Mobical
----------
... has become Everdroid, which in turn has become Keep
(https://www.keepcontacts.com/web/ ). But it's now nothing more than an
addressbook backup service. It no longer handles calendar, tasks nor
memos (so they could well be removed from the Mobical template).
3) Funambol
-----------
... (AKA OneMediaHub) was my favorite until they played a bad trick on
some of their users two months ago. 1st, they began rejecting normal
(non-SSL) connections--which makes some sense after all. But 2nd (and
there I'm guessing), without telling anyone, they switched from SHA1
signing scheme to SHA2. While Syncevolution handles this easily, that
was not the case of my aging Nokia E72 which has never heard of SHA2. So
along with several old phone users I was cut off from Funambol on the
smartphone side.
4) Memotoo
----------
... is not free, but the small fee is much less than a new phone. They
have been smart enough to devise a fallback address
(https://sha1.memotoo.com/syncml ) so that legacy (not SHA2-compliant)
devices can still take advantage of SSL connections. (But the normal
http address is still working.) I also appreciate that the one-way sync
can be triggered directly from their server (of course I can do that
from Syncevolution, but not from my phone). It's my best choice so far.
Best regards,
--
Daniel CLEMENT
2:13 a.m.
On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 14:27 +0200, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:
4) Memotoo
----------
... is not free, but the small fee is much less than a new phone. They
have been smart enough to devise a fallback address
(https://sha1.memotoo.com/syncml ) so that legacy (not SHA2-compliant)
devices can still take advantage of SSL connections. (But the normal
http address is still working.) I also appreciate that the one-way sync
can be triggered directly from their server (of course I can do that
from Syncevolution, but not from my phone). It's my best choice so far.
If I had to choose for myself, that's also what I'd use.
--
Best Regards, Patrick Ohly
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represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak
on behalf of Intel on this matter.
8:38 a.m.
On 16/06/15 13:27, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:
I was more or less forced to try the various SyncML services
supported
by Syncevolution lately. I thought perhaps I could share some remarks I
have made about them.
Good review. Thanks.
I am wondering why you don't consider running your own server, with
syncevolution providing the access for the phone and either mastering
your data or synchronising with some other service which does.
I am sure there is a good reason but I am interested to know why using a
commercial SyncML service is the best option for you.
Graham
10:03 a.m.
Le jeudi 18 juin 2015 à 16:38 +0100, Graham Cobb a écrit :
On 16/06/15 13:27, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:
> I was more or less forced to try the various SyncML services supported
> by Syncevolution lately. I thought perhaps I could share some remarks I
> have made about them.
Good review. Thanks.
I am wondering why you don't consider running your own server, with
syncevolution providing the access for the phone and either mastering
your data or synchronising with some other service which does.
I am sure there is a good reason but I am interested to know why using a
commercial SyncML service is the best option for you.
Graham
[...]
I can't deny I like the idea. But I lack the knowledge and the
expertise.
Also, I don't have a PC running all the time. I do have a NAS
(Synology), where I can add preconfigured packages. And since it's
basically a Linux box, I could also Telnet into it, though it frightens
me a bit. But I'm not sure it would be possible to turn it into a SyncML
server. Moreover--don't know if it matters--I don't have a fixed IP, and
I use a DDNS server to access it remotely.
That makes a lot of "ifs"...
--
Daniel CLEMENT
5:03 p.m.
Daniel, thank you for the SyncML survey!
There is a solution to the SHA2 problem with the older Symbian phones (S60v3).
Nokia put out a fix:
http://dl.nokia.com/ns/symfix/networking_improvements.SIS
See this post on the Daily Mobile forum for the details:
http://forum.dailymobile.net/forums/symbian-3-symbian-anna-and-nokia-bell...
More and more sites will be moving to SHA2 certs. Let's keep those classic Nokias in
service!
Regards,
pjw
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015, at 06:27 AM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:
I was more or less forced to try the various SyncML services
supported
by Syncevolution lately. I thought perhaps I could share some remarks I
have made about them.
1) OVI (for reference - dead and buried thanks to Microsoft)
------
2) Mobical
----------
... has become Everdroid, which in turn has become Keep
(https://www.keepcontacts.com/web/ ). But it's now nothing more than an
addressbook backup service. It no longer handles calendar, tasks nor
memos (so they could well be removed from the Mobical template).
3) Funambol
-----------
... (AKA OneMediaHub) was my favorite until they played a bad trick on
some of their users two months ago. 1st, they began rejecting normal
(non-SSL) connections--which makes some sense after all. But 2nd (and
there I'm guessing), without telling anyone, they switched from SHA1
signing scheme to SHA2. While Syncevolution handles this easily, that
was not the case of my aging Nokia E72 which has never heard of SHA2. So
along with several old phone users I was cut off from Funambol on the
smartphone side.
4) Memotoo
----------
... is not free, but the small fee is much less than a new phone. They
have been smart enough to devise a fallback address
(https://sha1.memotoo.com/syncml ) so that legacy (not SHA2-compliant)
devices can still take advantage of SSL connections. (But the normal
http address is still working.) I also appreciate that the one-way sync
can be triggered directly from their server (of course I can do that
from Syncevolution, but not from my phone). It's my best choice so far.
Best regards,
--
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7:53 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015, at 06:03 PM, pjw wrote:
There is a solution to the SHA2 problem with the older Symbian phones
(S60v3).
Nokia put out a fix:
http://dl.nokia.com/ns/symfix/networking_improvements.SIS
See this post on the Daily Mobile forum for the details:
http://forum.dailymobile.net/forums/symbian-3-symbian-anna-and-nokia-bell...
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015, at 06:27 AM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:
> I was more or less forced to try the various SyncML services supported
> by Syncevolution lately. I thought perhaps I could share some remarks I
> have made about them.
> ....
> 3) Funambol
> -----------
> ... (AKA OneMediaHub) was my favorite until they played a bad trick on
> some of their users two months ago. 1st, they began rejecting normal
> (non-SSL) connections--which makes some sense after all. But 2nd (and
> there I'm guessing), without telling anyone, they switched from SHA1
> signing scheme to SHA2. While Syncevolution handles this easily, that
> was not the case of my aging Nokia E72 which has never heard of SHA2. So
> along with several old phone users I was cut off from Funambol on the
> smartphone side.
So, for Funambol sync with OneMediaHub.com on the older Nokias (S60v3):
1) download and install on the phone the Nokia fix (link above)
2) restart the phone (to be safe)
3) with the phone's web browser go to https://onemediahub.com
4) you'll be asked what to do with the new certificate (SHA2-signed Symantec Class 3
Secure Server CA - G4)
5) save it to the phone (you'll find it in the certificate store, Trusted Sites)
6) and now you can use native Sync on the phone to update your Funambol account on
OneMediaHub
I've just done a successful sync of my E73 with OneMediaHub to confirm.
If you haven't done the sync in a while, you may need to update the phone's sync
profile server from my.funambol.com to https://onemediahub.com.
It's actually still a nice online SyncML service. Hadn't used it in a while,
thanks for the nudge Daniel!
--
pjw
9:23 a.m.
Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 à 18:03 -0600, pjw a écrit :
Daniel, thank you for the SyncML survey!
There is a solution to the SHA2 problem with the older Symbian phones
(S60v3).
Nokia put out a fix:
http://dl.nokia.com/ns/symfix/networking_improvements.SIS
Hmm... I did install this .SIS file on my E72. But I hadn't directed my
browser to https://onemediahub.com (your 2nd post). I'll give that a
try.
See this post on the Daily Mobile forum for the details:
http://forum.dailymobile.net/forums/symbian-3-symbian-anna-and-nokia-bell...
Useful link, thanks. I'm bookmarking it.
More and more sites will be moving to SHA2 certs. Let's keep
those
classic Nokias in service!
Fully agreed! But let's not turn this list into the
legacy-Nokia-phone-users mailing list...
Regards,
pjw
[...]
BR,
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